The People in the Arena

Season 1, Episode 20

On this episode, Jack Schott is joined by Kelly Schuna and they talk owning camps, the power of vulnerability, and how to lead as someone who doesn’t have all the answers. They talk Brené Brown and how to rumble! Jack introduces something called “Wildcards” and asks what she’s thinking that’s a little off the walls and doesn’t fit yet in the “spinning circles.”

If you’re looking for a podcast that shares how to lead with empathy and pulls in fun stories about making mistakes, this is the pod for you.

Producer EmJ’s takeaways:

1. I wonder if Kelly is onto something about behavior arising when campers don’t have autonomy and choice during their activities.

2. Having hard conversations is also saying that you’re invested in that person and what’s best for them. WHAT.

3. There’s authenticity and transparency in being a “talk-out-louder” so the people you’re with don’t have to do any guesswork.

4. Bonus: I do love Brené Brown. Here is “The Man in the Arena/It’s Not the Critique That Counts” that Kelly mentions.

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Show Notes

• The Camp Owners Podcast

• Interlude Music That We Don’t Own the Rights To

• Camper Clubs Blog

Kelly Schuna

Kelly Schuna is the Executive Director and Co-owner of Hidden Pines Ranch Day Camp, located in Stillwater, MN.  Kelly has a BA in Communication Disorders and MEd in  Early Childhood Education and Special Education. She is passionate about learning, growing as a camp professional, meeting new camp people, driveway dance parties and a good stick on mustache.

Kelly also hosts The Camp Owners Podcast.

Episode Info

This episode is hosted by Jack Schott.

The Summer Camp Society Podcast is edited and produced by EmJ Juszczyk.